There is a boat near my house that the owner told me hasn't been in the water in two years. What should I look for to know that I am buying a decent boat. It has an inboard motor so I want to make sure it runs before I even think about working on this boat, How would I do that. And lastly I want to make sure the trailer is drivable and safe, What should I do and look for to check?How do I check to see if a used boat is worth buying?
Compression test the motor (the motor has to be started and warmed up to operating temp to perform this test). If PSI isn't about the same on all cylinders (within 5% or so), walk away.
If it has an outdrive, and the owner starts the engine without supplying water to the lower unit, walk away (it only takes a few seconds dry running to ruin a water pump).
If you live in a jurisdiction that issues titles for boats, and there's not a lienholder, and the owner doesn't have the title in hand, walk away.
If all those work out, make the owner take you to the lake for a test drive. When you get there, feel the trailer hubs -- they shouldn't even be warm.
The motor should start quickly (cold and warm), idle smoothly, accelerate without stalling and cruise at full throttle without problems.
It won't of course, because evaporating gasoline leaves behind a varnish in the carburetors. It should still start quickly, anyway.
But you need the lake test to see how badly it leaks around the outdrive.
go out there tonight and run a water hoe to it fill it half way . come back in 2 days and see if it held the water .How do I check to see if a used boat is worth buying?
well ask the manager how much it is and when he states then price shoot him in the leg and the say "now how much is"...."its free!!"...lol
All kinds of things to look at.
It's best if you take someone who is knowledgable about boats with you to check it out.How do I check to see if a used boat is worth buying?
jtexas gave you a great answer so heed it please.
You also have the right to have the vessel gone over by a marine surveyor. This would cost you a couple of hundred but it's definitely well worth the investment. They check structural integrity of the boat (bottom, sides, transom, etc) and a list of things much too long to list here. You can find them in the yellow pages or on the intranet.
But...even with the marine survey you still want to take the boat for a test drive. Do not settle for a start up in the driveway for that won't show that she can accelerate and get up and go.
Go luck!
Thursday, January 19, 2012
Are Pontoon boats used for water skiing?
Yes they can be, I can get up behind my pontoon it's a 24ft with a 90hp on it and it pulls me just fine either on two skis or slalom and I not a little guy either (6' 3'' 185lbs). But that being said I wouldn't say it's the ideal boat for water skiing.Are Pontoon boats used for water skiing?
You can use them although the wake is lame, and they don't go very fast. It can take a while to get up on the skies considering a pontoon's acceleration is poor. I have seen it been done. You would need a 100 hp engine or greater on it though.
not tipicaly but you could.
you can have a 75 hp motor pull you for sure
its all about your prop and the way you enegin is tunned.
itll work
taker easy bro.Are Pontoon boats used for water skiing?
Nope. Too slow and then when you have to go get the person after they fall or are done it takes a while...
bad choice. o.k. for tubing.Are Pontoon boats used for water skiing?
no man they are too slow most of the time
You can use them although the wake is lame, and they don't go very fast. It can take a while to get up on the skies considering a pontoon's acceleration is poor. I have seen it been done. You would need a 100 hp engine or greater on it though.
not tipicaly but you could.
you can have a 75 hp motor pull you for sure
its all about your prop and the way you enegin is tunned.
itll work
taker easy bro.Are Pontoon boats used for water skiing?
Nope. Too slow and then when you have to go get the person after they fall or are done it takes a while...
bad choice. o.k. for tubing.Are Pontoon boats used for water skiing?
no man they are too slow most of the time
I bought a used boat. It has a torn boot around the lower unit. How do I know which boot kit to buy?
The inboard is a 4 cylinder chevy engine that has been rebuilt and runs great. I don't know what type of lower end is on the boat so I don't know which boot kit to buy. Is there someplace on the lowere unit that will tell me, or do I just measure the hole?I bought a used boat. It has a torn boot around the lower unit. How do I know which boot kit to buy?
the "boot" is outdrive specific. you need to find out which one you have. mercruiser, volvo, yamaha, or omc. if you could post a pic someone would know. we also need more info on boat.I bought a used boat. It has a torn boot around the lower unit. How do I know which boot kit to buy?
Depending how old the outdrive is but I assume you have an older boat
If the engine is a chevy then in most cases it is mercruiser or omc
Mercruisers have mostly been black, if the anti-vent plate above the prop is round curved it it a MR. if edged alfa1 .
(older) Volvo pentas are white and have no through prop exhaust. eighter has omc but has a typical round outdrive shape and uses a transome boot in round or square type.
according to your "measure the hole" i think you have an omc
I have heard that the round type transome boot is difficult to get your hands on.I bought a used boat. It has a torn boot around the lower unit. How do I know which boot kit to buy?
Look at the registration of this boat. Hopefully it will give you some information on the manufacture of the boat. It's critical to have the correct boot installed or it will leak badly. Ask the previous owner or take it to a marina and ask them. Also, find the serial number on the out drive and use this number when ordering parts. Different years have different boots. The serial number will also tell you what year it was built. Go to "iboats.com" and search their forum under out drive parts and info. Very helpful info and they also sell part reasonably
Good luck.
the "boot" is outdrive specific. you need to find out which one you have. mercruiser, volvo, yamaha, or omc. if you could post a pic someone would know. we also need more info on boat.I bought a used boat. It has a torn boot around the lower unit. How do I know which boot kit to buy?
Depending how old the outdrive is but I assume you have an older boat
If the engine is a chevy then in most cases it is mercruiser or omc
Mercruisers have mostly been black, if the anti-vent plate above the prop is round curved it it a MR. if edged alfa1 .
(older) Volvo pentas are white and have no through prop exhaust. eighter has omc but has a typical round outdrive shape and uses a transome boot in round or square type.
according to your "measure the hole" i think you have an omc
I have heard that the round type transome boot is difficult to get your hands on.I bought a used boat. It has a torn boot around the lower unit. How do I know which boot kit to buy?
Look at the registration of this boat. Hopefully it will give you some information on the manufacture of the boat. It's critical to have the correct boot installed or it will leak badly. Ask the previous owner or take it to a marina and ask them. Also, find the serial number on the out drive and use this number when ordering parts. Different years have different boots. The serial number will also tell you what year it was built. Go to "iboats.com" and search their forum under out drive parts and info. Very helpful info and they also sell part reasonably
Good luck.
How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
I've been looking for a used boat for a while. I've recently come across one that seems like a good deal. The one issue with it is that it is old (1977)
With regard to the hull condition, what should I look for that would be a deal-breaker?How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
If this is big money you want a professional survey. Before you spend that money do a couple of things. Looking at the hull from angle to create a "horizon." Walk along each side watching for abrupt changes in the line that will indicate dents, repairs, or other "stresses." Do an exam for blisters. If they are present break a few and see if things are ugly underneath. Finally, using a plastic headed hammer or the handle of a screwdriver, tap the hull, especially around any fittings. If the hull is sound you will get a "sharp" return sound. If moisture is present the return will be "dull." The general opinion is walk away from a hull problem.
You might also do a web search for info concerning the boat. Often there are owner's groups with forums and in a short time you can pick up a pattern on particular problems or join and ask. There are books, of course. Hulls are often not a problem with older boats as they were heavily glassed although blisters are not uncommon and can be treated. Later hulls were cored with a lightweight material sandwiched between layers of glass. If this is wet it is a large problem.How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
Don't write it off because it's old- sometimes, like with a fiberglass boat, that can be a good thing. I'm not sure if blisters were a problem back then, but check for them. There weren't too many cored hulls- avoid them like the plague unless you KNOW they're good. A solid glass hull can be professionally repaired as good and strong as new. Check for separated bulkheads, separated keel joint (keel bolts if you have them), hull to deck joint (don't want THAT leaking) deck condition (cored decks- jump around and see if they squish), and mast step area (compressed to the point of damage?). To be sure, you can have a survey performed (Your own surveyor- don't use theirs).How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
hull can be repaired..make sure there aren't any soft spots in the floor, and that old repairs aren't hiding any hole throughs....take your oldest clothes and climb under it and look on the trailer...never buy a boat you can't see in dry dock.....mopar
With regard to the hull condition, what should I look for that would be a deal-breaker?How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
If this is big money you want a professional survey. Before you spend that money do a couple of things. Looking at the hull from angle to create a "horizon." Walk along each side watching for abrupt changes in the line that will indicate dents, repairs, or other "stresses." Do an exam for blisters. If they are present break a few and see if things are ugly underneath. Finally, using a plastic headed hammer or the handle of a screwdriver, tap the hull, especially around any fittings. If the hull is sound you will get a "sharp" return sound. If moisture is present the return will be "dull." The general opinion is walk away from a hull problem.
You might also do a web search for info concerning the boat. Often there are owner's groups with forums and in a short time you can pick up a pattern on particular problems or join and ask. There are books, of course. Hulls are often not a problem with older boats as they were heavily glassed although blisters are not uncommon and can be treated. Later hulls were cored with a lightweight material sandwiched between layers of glass. If this is wet it is a large problem.How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
Don't write it off because it's old- sometimes, like with a fiberglass boat, that can be a good thing. I'm not sure if blisters were a problem back then, but check for them. There weren't too many cored hulls- avoid them like the plague unless you KNOW they're good. A solid glass hull can be professionally repaired as good and strong as new. Check for separated bulkheads, separated keel joint (keel bolts if you have them), hull to deck joint (don't want THAT leaking) deck condition (cored decks- jump around and see if they squish), and mast step area (compressed to the point of damage?). To be sure, you can have a survey performed (Your own surveyor- don't use theirs).How to determine the condition of a used fiberglass hull?
hull can be repaired..make sure there aren't any soft spots in the floor, and that old repairs aren't hiding any hole throughs....take your oldest clothes and climb under it and look on the trailer...never buy a boat you can't see in dry dock.....
I trying to buy a used boat from a private seller.?
I trying to buy a used boat from a private seller. How would the change of ownership go about if the private seller still owes his bank $23,000 for his boat? Oh yah were buying the boat for $22,000. Where would the $1000 differ come from?I trying to buy a used boat from a private seller.?
Firebird is correct, the seller makes up the difference.
Be sure the seller actually pays off the loan and you get the title. See if you can go with him to his bank and have him sign off the the title right there.I trying to buy a used boat from a private seller.?
The seller has to pull that $1000 out of his pocket.
Firebird is correct, the seller makes up the difference.
Be sure the seller actually pays off the loan and you get the title. See if you can go with him to his bank and have him sign off the the title right there.I trying to buy a used boat from a private seller.?
The seller has to pull that $1000 out of his pocket.
Where can I find a used hydraulic boat trailer?
I'm looking for a used hydraulic boat trailer that will move a boat up to 28' and 10,000# approx. Does anyone know where I can find one, cash in hand. I found a few that are too big, looking for one that is comparable in size to a Hostar 2800 but I will buy and modify a larger unit if the price is right.Where can I find a used hydraulic boat trailer?
I"ve seen some parked in the weeds at marinas that no longer use them. The question I have is where are you. They might take a lot of work to make serviceable.
I"ve seen some parked in the weeds at marinas that no longer use them. The question I have is where are you. They might take a lot of work to make serviceable.
Where is the best place to buy used pontoon boats in waco, tx area?
See link below, was taken 30 seconds ago. Represents Craigslist items for your area.Where is the best place to buy used pontoon boats in waco, tx area?
Check out Cooper Capital .com They have a number of boats for sale and have quite a few listed in Dickinson Texas. They just might have something that appeals to you. Good luck!
Check out Cooper Capital .com They have a number of boats for sale and have quite a few listed in Dickinson Texas. They just might have something that appeals to you. Good luck!
Looking for used boats lake lanier georgia?
there is a place called lanier marine liquidators, they use to be off 306 in gainesville but they have moved off 53 somewhere in dawsonville. the owners name is shane he can find you a used boat any kind you want and with or without trailer etc. the website is laniermarine.net
What's the best site for buying a used boat?
I live near Florida and looking for a used trawler (mostly for cruising, not fishing). I'd like to spend around 40-50K.
So, what's a great website to help my search?What's the best site for buying a used boat?
We have a Boat Trader magazine in Florida that is very good...There also is one for the tri state area, FL, AL, GA.
The website to look at is: http://www.boattraderonline.com/adsearch/boatsearchprocess.html
Then type in the price range and the keyword is "trawler". Then select Florida or any state you want and it will come up with various boats available. Good Luck!!!What's the best site for buying a used boat?
SoundingsWhat's the best site for buying a used boat?
You could try www.apolloduck.com
Over here I use apolloduck.co.uk, but they also have an international section. You can search USA, but hopefully you can narrow your Search to just Florida. Hope it works for you, Good Luck :-)
Worldwide best is : http://www.yachtworld.com/
try also : http://www.usedboats.com
and : http://www.yachtfindersbrokerage.com/yac鈥?/a>bully dog
So, what's a great website to help my search?What's the best site for buying a used boat?
We have a Boat Trader magazine in Florida that is very good...There also is one for the tri state area, FL, AL, GA.
The website to look at is: http://www.boattraderonline.com/adsearch/boatsearchprocess.html
Then type in the price range and the keyword is "trawler". Then select Florida or any state you want and it will come up with various boats available. Good Luck!!!What's the best site for buying a used boat?
SoundingsWhat's the best site for buying a used boat?
You could try www.apolloduck.com
Over here I use apolloduck.co.uk, but they also have an international section. You can search USA, but hopefully you can narrow your Search to just Florida. Hope it works for you, Good Luck :-)
Worldwide best is : http://www.yachtworld.com/
try also : http://www.usedboats.com
and : http://www.yachtfindersbrokerage.com/yac鈥?/a>
How were Roman war boats built? (The ones that were long and narrow and used in the Carthaginian War?)?
I need to know for a school report and it has to be pretty exact... i cannot find it on the internet at all!!How were Roman war boats built? (The ones that were long and narrow and used in the Carthaginian War?)?
The design evolved from earlier greek designs. first internal frame and planking then plank %26amp; spline.
The largest of thier boats still retained the internal framing methods.
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The design evolved from earlier greek designs. first internal frame and planking then plank %26amp; spline.
The largest of thier boats still retained the internal framing methods.
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What should i ask when buying a used boat?
what should i ask when buying a used 2006 searay 44' sundancer. i live in Florida and im looking at two, one in south carolina and one in minnesotaWhat should i ask when buying a used boat?
Freshwater or saltwater? Not for the MN boat, but ask closed or open cooling system.
Hours on the engines?
Regular maintenance?
Extras? Electronics.
Why are you selling?
I have a million questions to give you.
Are you a boat owner now?
Want me to take a look at the Minnesota boat? I live in the "Land of 10,000 Lakes"
You should ask when your surveyor can look at the boat.
Hire a competant marine surveyor that specializes in these types of evaluations. A good surveyor will tell you any issues with the boat, which you can then use to re-negotiate or walk away. Be smart and hire a marine surveyor.
good luck!What should i ask when buying a used boat?
Ask you surveyor how much he is going to charge you first then base your questions to the owner on what the surveyor finds.
If they are diesel as if gas there they will put you in the poor house%26gt;What should i ask when buying a used boat?
When you come to South Carolina to test drive your 44 footer, look me up.
Does it leak?
Freshwater or saltwater? Not for the MN boat, but ask closed or open cooling system.
Hours on the engines?
Regular maintenance?
Extras? Electronics.
Why are you selling?
I have a million questions to give you.
Are you a boat owner now?
Want me to take a look at the Minnesota boat? I live in the "Land of 10,000 Lakes"
You should ask when your surveyor can look at the boat.
Hire a competant marine surveyor that specializes in these types of evaluations. A good surveyor will tell you any issues with the boat, which you can then use to re-negotiate or walk away. Be smart and hire a marine surveyor.
good luck!What should i ask when buying a used boat?
Ask you surveyor how much he is going to charge you first then base your questions to the owner on what the surveyor finds.
If they are diesel as if gas there they will put you in the poor house%26gt;What should i ask when buying a used boat?
When you come to South Carolina to test drive your 44 footer, look me up.
Does it leak?
How old is too old for a used motor boat?
Is a 21 year old boat too old to consider buying used?
The interior is replaced and body is fine, but don't know about the engine. Will the engine be too much cost to rebuild to be worth it?How old is too old for a used motor boat?
My boat is 31 years old, the motor is 32. The engine OEM and several aftermarket suppliers still support it with parts, and fiberglass is forever. I've redone 1/2 the interior, the other half is in good shape.
The weak spot in the hull is the transom. Transoms can be replaced but it's a *major* project which, for an old boat is not economically prudent unless you do it yourself. Any soft wood in the transom means it's a goner.
A 21 year old motor would probably be more economical to replace with, say, a 15 year old motor, than to rebuild unless you do it yourself.
Depends on how well the boat has been taken care of all of its life. I own a 1984 242 ls Formula and it is in better shape than most boats that are only 2 years old. It is immaculate from bow to stern.
I did have to replace the old 5.7 liter engine (MerCruiser) a few years ago because that got tired...
But it has some serious horsepower now, and it is well taken care of, and well worth the work if you have money to spend on something like that.How old is too old for a used motor boat?
Age is not as important as how well it has ben maintained.I would look for cracks in the hull,transom area for rot and cracks.Just look for any structural weakness.If it looks good buy it.As far as the engine.Make sure "hard parts" are still available before you make your final decision.
Most people down boats because of engine problems. Price that first.
Older engines can leave you stranded. Play the jaws music.How old is too old for a used motor boat?
My sailboat is a 1981, the 10 hp engine is 1984. I trust all systems with my life.
The interior is replaced and body is fine, but don't know about the engine. Will the engine be too much cost to rebuild to be worth it?How old is too old for a used motor boat?
My boat is 31 years old, the motor is 32. The engine OEM and several aftermarket suppliers still support it with parts, and fiberglass is forever. I've redone 1/2 the interior, the other half is in good shape.
The weak spot in the hull is the transom. Transoms can be replaced but it's a *major* project which, for an old boat is not economically prudent unless you do it yourself. Any soft wood in the transom means it's a goner.
A 21 year old motor would probably be more economical to replace with, say, a 15 year old motor, than to rebuild unless you do it yourself.
Depends on how well the boat has been taken care of all of its life. I own a 1984 242 ls Formula and it is in better shape than most boats that are only 2 years old. It is immaculate from bow to stern.
I did have to replace the old 5.7 liter engine (MerCruiser) a few years ago because that got tired...
But it has some serious horsepower now, and it is well taken care of, and well worth the work if you have money to spend on something like that.How old is too old for a used motor boat?
Age is not as important as how well it has ben maintained.I would look for cracks in the hull,transom area for rot and cracks.Just look for any structural weakness.If it looks good buy it.As far as the engine.Make sure "hard parts" are still available before you make your final decision.
Most people down boats because of engine problems. Price that first.
Older engines can leave you stranded. Play the jaws music.How old is too old for a used motor boat?
My sailboat is a 1981, the 10 hp engine is 1984. I trust all systems with my life.
What kind of boats were used to bomb the USS Cole in 200 killing 17 US soldiers?
For one you mean Sailors..and two the boats were rigid hulled inflatable boats. Just like the ones you can go to any boat store and buy and the same models that the Harbor Pilot and Security team patroled in the harbor,that is why the ship's security team did not fire because they believed it was the harbor pilot or harbor security making rounds.What kind of boats were used to bomb the USS Cole in 200 killing 17 US soldiers?
It was more of a single raft or other light service craft usually used to facilitate to refueling of seagoing vessels like the Cole. There were reportedly two people aboard who stood up at attention right before the blast.What kind of boats were used to bomb the USS Cole in 200 killing 17 US soldiers?
Many people forget that we didn't know who was responsible for the Cole bombing until February of 2001. I wonder why Bush didn't go after Al Queda, or at least hold an anti-terror cabinet meeting when it was determined they were responsible.
It was more of a single raft or other light service craft usually used to facilitate to refueling of seagoing vessels like the Cole. There were reportedly two people aboard who stood up at attention right before the blast.What kind of boats were used to bomb the USS Cole in 200 killing 17 US soldiers?
Many people forget that we didn't know who was responsible for the Cole bombing until February of 2001. I wonder why Bush didn't go after Al Queda, or at least hold an anti-terror cabinet meeting when it was determined they were responsible.
What is the cheapest place to buy a used 4.3liter mercruiser with a bravo outdrive?
I know boat salvage yards, or used boat dealers is a good place to start. Just wondering if it is a better idea to try to get an engine out of a newer model car or a wrecked boat? I think the downfall is the car engine isnt marine grade and has different cams, heads, and intakes. One downfall of getting an engine from a boat salvage yard would be that many of the engines in salvage have been submerged.What is the cheapest place to buy a used 4.3liter mercruiser with a bravo outdrive?
You have answered your own question. Converting an automotive block to marine is much more work, you can buy a remanufactred short block for about $1800. Just a note, the Bravo drive is not designed for a 4.3, you should be looking at an Alpha drive.magellan roadmate
You have answered your own question. Converting an automotive block to marine is much more work, you can buy a remanufactred short block for about $1800. Just a note, the Bravo drive is not designed for a 4.3, you should be looking at an Alpha drive.
What are boats used for?
Like cargo ships or rescue boats
what else do we need boats for?What are boats used for?
Fishing, Water skiing, Transportation, Wake boarding, Tubing, Exploration, Diving, Fire fighting, Swimming, Police patrol, Sailing, Racing, etc. But most boats are used by people who just enjoy being on the water. A few people I know seem to use their boats as a floating patio, so I guess the real answer to your question, is within practical limits, what the owner wants it to do.
Cheap transportation of heavy cargos and transportation on the water.What are boats used for?
Racing.
Sailing for the pleasure and relaxation of being on the water.
To spend thousands or more Dollars on every year to employ anyone that is in the boating industry.What are boats used for?
I live on an island and use my boat for transportation to and from the mainland daily.
what else do we need boats for?What are boats used for?
Fishing, Water skiing, Transportation, Wake boarding, Tubing, Exploration, Diving, Fire fighting, Swimming, Police patrol, Sailing, Racing, etc. But most boats are used by people who just enjoy being on the water. A few people I know seem to use their boats as a floating patio, so I guess the real answer to your question, is within practical limits, what the owner wants it to do.
Cheap transportation of heavy cargos and transportation on the water.What are boats used for?
Racing.
Sailing for the pleasure and relaxation of being on the water.
To spend thousands or more Dollars on every year to employ anyone that is in the boating industry.What are boats used for?
I live on an island and use my boat for transportation to and from the mainland daily.
Where can I find a good source of used runner or flatbottom boats in so cal or maybe some dealerships?
Drop a note to dragboatparts.com, they can help.
How are boats using sails able to return to their starting place?
All those boats using a sail and traveling upwind, like the old time galleys using a sail, once they reach their destination how are they able to return to where they came from?How are boats using sails able to return to their starting place?
It's called "tacking."
It would be easier to explain to you if I could draw a picture. Think of the sail as an air foil. When the wind blows straight from the boat, (front,) the sail will luff, (flap.) However, if you turn slightly to one side or the other the sail will fill with air and start moving forward. The best point of sail is what's called a "close reach" or "close haul." That is when the wind is 30-60 degrees off the bow of the boat blowing toward you. You actually go faster trimmed, (set up,) this way than if you were "running" which is with the wind directly at your back.
Understanding this, you maneuver the boat in a zig-zag manner, (tacking,) into the wind. There's whats called a "beam reach," which is with the wind at 90 degrees off port, (left,) or starboard, (right,) and "broad reach" where you have either a right of left quartering tailwind.
Here is an excellent site that will explain it in much more detail. http://www.sailingusa.info/sail_trim.htm
You should try sailing sometime. For my money sailing beats out speed boating any day, except of course on those days that there is no wind. Then you just motor out and take a swim.
1. they have outboard motors.
2. they're using tugboats.How are boats using sails able to return to their starting place?
tacking. If if a boat had to go in a straight line exactly with the wind, nobody would ever get anywhere they wanted, they would have to wait until the wind changed, and it often doesn't on oceans and so forth. However, most sailing is done at angles to the wind, and you can go just a few points off of straight upwind with proper trimming. In order to go upwind, you tack- that is, zigzag upwind. you can't go straight, but you can go against the wind at a pretty steep angle.
They don't travel up wind they travel across the wind it called tacking.Old time galleons,sail down wind. followed the trade winds that travel south to north in a circle west to east to south.I sailed for years threw the carribean. Know i have a Sportfish 48' I have spent enough time zig zaging.How are boats using sails able to return to their starting place?
Above give you the concept.
If, you would like to play and see how it works, go here;
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/volvoo鈥?/a>
It National Geographic and it a simple sailing program. You can get the feel of Running with the wind and Reaching for the wind. Well, that how I say it. ;-)
You have a Sail Control and a Rudder Control. Arrows show the direction of your wind. You can see information below like your speed. As I say, it a simple simulator to see how the boat reacts to the wind, sail position and rudder.
Downwind is going with the wind. To go against the wind they tack. Most boats can tack within 50 degrees of the wind and go back and forth across the wind making headway up wind. They also studied currents to know when to go where.
It's called "tacking."
It would be easier to explain to you if I could draw a picture. Think of the sail as an air foil. When the wind blows straight from the boat, (front,) the sail will luff, (flap.) However, if you turn slightly to one side or the other the sail will fill with air and start moving forward. The best point of sail is what's called a "close reach" or "close haul." That is when the wind is 30-60 degrees off the bow of the boat blowing toward you. You actually go faster trimmed, (set up,) this way than if you were "running" which is with the wind directly at your back.
Understanding this, you maneuver the boat in a zig-zag manner, (tacking,) into the wind. There's whats called a "beam reach," which is with the wind at 90 degrees off port, (left,) or starboard, (right,) and "broad reach" where you have either a right of left quartering tailwind.
Here is an excellent site that will explain it in much more detail. http://www.sailingusa.info/sail_trim.htm
You should try sailing sometime. For my money sailing beats out speed boating any day, except of course on those days that there is no wind. Then you just motor out and take a swim.
1. they have outboard motors.
2. they're using tugboats.How are boats using sails able to return to their starting place?
tacking. If if a boat had to go in a straight line exactly with the wind, nobody would ever get anywhere they wanted, they would have to wait until the wind changed, and it often doesn't on oceans and so forth. However, most sailing is done at angles to the wind, and you can go just a few points off of straight upwind with proper trimming. In order to go upwind, you tack- that is, zigzag upwind. you can't go straight, but you can go against the wind at a pretty steep angle.
They don't travel up wind they travel across the wind it called tacking.Old time galleons,sail down wind. followed the trade winds that travel south to north in a circle west to east to south.I sailed for years threw the carribean. Know i have a Sportfish 48' I have spent enough time zig zaging.How are boats using sails able to return to their starting place?
Above give you the concept.
If, you would like to play and see how it works, go here;
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/volvoo鈥?/a>
It National Geographic and it a simple sailing program. You can get the feel of Running with the wind and Reaching for the wind. Well, that how I say it. ;-)
You have a Sail Control and a Rudder Control. Arrows show the direction of your wind. You can see information below like your speed. As I say, it a simple simulator to see how the boat reacts to the wind, sail position and rudder.
Downwind is going with the wind. To go against the wind they tack. Most boats can tack within 50 degrees of the wind and go back and forth across the wind making headway up wind. They also studied currents to know when to go where.
I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
I am new at this but it has always been a dream. I am looking to buy a boat that my family can enjoy on the lake for water skiing and fishing. But I also want to use it for boating around in my local Southern CA bays and close shore 1 to 2 miles out fishing.
Any ideas of what kind of boat to look for? I will most likely buy a used boat first.I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
I suggest at least 19' boat. Either have dual motors or a small kicker motor to get you home if you break down. Make sure it has a top , the sun is terribly hot on the water. Decide what you will do more of realistically. If it is fishing, get a live well and bait wells. If it is leisure boating get that type. You can always take Coolers for fish and Bait buckets for a once or twice a year fishing trip.
18 to 20' center console bay boat.
If you going offshore you might want to consider dual power.I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
You know it depends on how many pounds, people, and what activities you will be doing. I have owned several boats and I too buy used boats. I like Chris Crafts. I would think you would want at least a 21' no smaller. Cuddy Cabins are nice in case of bad weather or sleeping. Make sure you look out for rotted wood. Everywhere. Try Craig's List for listings in your area. There are boats listed daily. Try to get as much equipment thrown in the deal as possible. Other boats to consider are Crownline, Four Winns, Rinker, and Sea Ray.
Good Luck!
Its all about finance you know.
How much money do you want to spend?I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
Nothing less than 22' for the ocean, depend's if you want fishing (center console), or cruising (cuddy cabin), I only like one kind of boat "BOSTON WHALER", a Boston Whaler won't sink, that's some mighty important information you have RIGHT THERE !
first lesson. never buy a used boat until you have a licensed
surveyor inspect the boat. the cost will save you money and trouble later. for skiing you will need 150- 200 hp motor to pull adults. a family of four will need a 22-25 boat for comfort including a head and storage areas. a bimini top for shade. you can safely trailer it if your vehicle is rated for 10-12000 pounds. be sure to consider insurance. an inboard engine is an option ,but they require a lot of room in the boat. if there is a boat show in your, its a god place to see whats available.
Any ideas of what kind of boat to look for? I will most likely buy a used boat first.I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
I suggest at least 19' boat. Either have dual motors or a small kicker motor to get you home if you break down. Make sure it has a top , the sun is terribly hot on the water. Decide what you will do more of realistically. If it is fishing, get a live well and bait wells. If it is leisure boating get that type. You can always take Coolers for fish and Bait buckets for a once or twice a year fishing trip.
18 to 20' center console bay boat.
If you going offshore you might want to consider dual power.I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
You know it depends on how many pounds, people, and what activities you will be doing. I have owned several boats and I too buy used boats. I like Chris Crafts. I would think you would want at least a 21' no smaller. Cuddy Cabins are nice in case of bad weather or sleeping. Make sure you look out for rotted wood. Everywhere. Try Craig's List for listings in your area. There are boats listed daily. Try to get as much equipment thrown in the deal as possible. Other boats to consider are Crownline, Four Winns, Rinker, and Sea Ray.
Good Luck!
Its all about finance you know.
How much money do you want to spend?I want to buy a boat that will be used in the lake and ocean. No more than 2 miles out in the ocean. any ideas
Nothing less than 22' for the ocean, depend's if you want fishing (center console), or cruising (cuddy cabin), I only like one kind of boat "BOSTON WHALER", a Boston Whaler won't sink, that's some mighty important information you have RIGHT THERE !
first lesson. never buy a used boat until you have a licensed
surveyor inspect the boat. the cost will save you money and trouble later. for skiing you will need 150- 200 hp motor to pull adults. a family of four will need a 22-25 boat for comfort including a head and storage areas. a bimini top for shade. you can safely trailer it if your vehicle is rated for 10-12000 pounds. be sure to consider insurance. an inboard engine is an option ,but they require a lot of room in the boat. if there is a boat show in your, its a god place to see whats available.
Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
I'm always dreaming up wild ideas, and I had one for a new breed of high performance personal watercraft - the Tube boat. I want to put a V-8 engine into a very stretched Seadoo-type watercraft, and just use a simple propeller shaft off the back of the engine, with maybe a simple clutch mechanism to engage/disengage the power to the shaft.
Anyway, that all said, I know boats use automobile-type engines, but use special water-cooled exhaust manifolds, etc. What other Boaterizing is done to an automobile engine to make it into a "marine" engine? Any special gimmicks to prevent the corrosion of dissimilar metals inside the motor? If I chose to use a straight car engine, with the watercooled boat manifolds, how long would a motor last without any other mods? Obviously a boat style cooling system as well would be installed %26lt;duh%26gt;. So other than radiator, coolant, and exhaust manifolds, what else would normally be changed?Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
A marine sticker and a large increase in the price. although there are specialized marine engines that use special alloys to prevent corrosion (ie atomic 4, westerbreke diesels) most of your cheaper ski boats use a car motor core for economic reasons (ie cannot put a $10,000 marine engine into a brand new Bayliner that retails brand new for $8995)
As for your question of how long one will last, depends on the water quality ran through it, salt, sand, silt, algae all change the lifespan. Most boats die of neglect than anything else.
Although you can use an air cooled radiator in a boat,(seen it done) its easier to use the water underneath it. I would suggest a heat exchanger, that way you can add antifreeze rust inhibitors to the water going through the motor.
Boats either use a dry exhaust or a wet exhaust. Dry exhaust is like a car, no water going through the exhaust manifold. The exhaust pipe is hot, there is usually vented above the boat instead of through the hull. They are usually used on racing style boats (ie drag boats with striaght pipes are common) A wet exhaust, water cools the exhaust manifold, and is usually sprayed into the exhaust a couple inches from exhaust manifold. This allows used of a rubber hose to vent the exhaust through the hull.
Coast guard requires a flash arrestor on carburator engines, a piece of window screen will meet this requirement though. Nothing says you have to use a carb, fuel injection works just as well in a boat.
As for you gearbox, (transmission) the typical propeller will caviate and loose effieciency long before a engine will redline. Usually a set gear ratio is used to match optimum prop rpm with optimum engine rpm . Most boat use a set pitch, set diameter prop, with either is good for top end or for acceleration. Variable pitch props are out there but are expensive.
Also, marine engines do not run backward, on multiple engine boats the direction of props is changed in the gearbox.
Why not coolant to lake water intercoolers? And do away with running to cold. Drop an auto radator in a box with lake sea water circulating thru it? Aluminium will not work for this but copper and brass will. Exhaust water manifolds can crack where you cannot see it and run water into the stopped engine open exhaust valve. Modern 400 hp 400 lb ft LS-2 corvette engine will be a real firecracker engine with out salt ot lake water in it ans storage with coolant won't be a problem. PT boats had silencers that made there engines almost slient.Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
You would have to have more then just a simple clutch mechanism due to the fact that marine engines generally run much higher RPMs then your typical engine. If you were using something like one of those smaller personal watercraft vehicles, then a V-8 would provide way too much power. You would need to be belted in just to keep your seat. Something smaller like the K22 out of a Honda would be better. It is already set to hit the 10k RPM mark.
marine engines are designed to run all day at 4200 rpm .car engines are not ,cars have gears to allow a variation of revolutions per minute,they cannot take the pounding .of constant pressure. marine engines have metal timing gears and chains ,heavy duty bearings through out ,and brass freeze out plugs , with a heavy duty cam .. a marine 350 c.i. is usually 260 h .p. a car or truck is usually at best180 h.p. Major difference in performance ...you can run a boat engine in a vehicle ,but do not put a vehicle engine in a boat .unless you like to hear it go BANG!!!!!!Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
Go for it...
Consider a heat exchanger for closed loop cooling...antifreeze in a water bath. You need zincs on the block and drive shaft to control Galvanic corrosion. Swap the car manifold for a Marine manifold(ebay) which pumps water into the exhaust leaving the boat. Do the flame/spark arrestor thing and convert to sparkless starter/alternator/ignition. Make sure there is a good air path to the air intake. It's also a good idea to vent the engine compartment before attempting a startup. Make sure you don't have so much HP that it will flip on its side as the prop bites. OUCH!!!
Consider an old Berkley or Jacuzzi jet drive designed to bolt right to GM blocks.
I had a Berkley on an old Olds 455 in a Cigarette LaBaron(21ft) and it just rocked! Good luck.
you also have to have a spark proof starter and alternator and a flame arrestor for the air intakecatalytic converter
Anyway, that all said, I know boats use automobile-type engines, but use special water-cooled exhaust manifolds, etc. What other Boaterizing is done to an automobile engine to make it into a "marine" engine? Any special gimmicks to prevent the corrosion of dissimilar metals inside the motor? If I chose to use a straight car engine, with the watercooled boat manifolds, how long would a motor last without any other mods? Obviously a boat style cooling system as well would be installed %26lt;duh%26gt;. So other than radiator, coolant, and exhaust manifolds, what else would normally be changed?Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
A marine sticker and a large increase in the price. although there are specialized marine engines that use special alloys to prevent corrosion (ie atomic 4, westerbreke diesels) most of your cheaper ski boats use a car motor core for economic reasons (ie cannot put a $10,000 marine engine into a brand new Bayliner that retails brand new for $8995)
As for your question of how long one will last, depends on the water quality ran through it, salt, sand, silt, algae all change the lifespan. Most boats die of neglect than anything else.
Although you can use an air cooled radiator in a boat,(seen it done) its easier to use the water underneath it. I would suggest a heat exchanger, that way you can add antifreeze rust inhibitors to the water going through the motor.
Boats either use a dry exhaust or a wet exhaust. Dry exhaust is like a car, no water going through the exhaust manifold. The exhaust pipe is hot, there is usually vented above the boat instead of through the hull. They are usually used on racing style boats (ie drag boats with striaght pipes are common) A wet exhaust, water cools the exhaust manifold, and is usually sprayed into the exhaust a couple inches from exhaust manifold. This allows used of a rubber hose to vent the exhaust through the hull.
Coast guard requires a flash arrestor on carburator engines, a piece of window screen will meet this requirement though. Nothing says you have to use a carb, fuel injection works just as well in a boat.
As for you gearbox, (transmission) the typical propeller will caviate and loose effieciency long before a engine will redline. Usually a set gear ratio is used to match optimum prop rpm with optimum engine rpm . Most boat use a set pitch, set diameter prop, with either is good for top end or for acceleration. Variable pitch props are out there but are expensive.
Also, marine engines do not run backward, on multiple engine boats the direction of props is changed in the gearbox.
Why not coolant to lake water intercoolers? And do away with running to cold. Drop an auto radator in a box with lake sea water circulating thru it? Aluminium will not work for this but copper and brass will. Exhaust water manifolds can crack where you cannot see it and run water into the stopped engine open exhaust valve. Modern 400 hp 400 lb ft LS-2 corvette engine will be a real firecracker engine with out salt ot lake water in it ans storage with coolant won't be a problem. PT boats had silencers that made there engines almost slient.Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
You would have to have more then just a simple clutch mechanism due to the fact that marine engines generally run much higher RPMs then your typical engine. If you were using something like one of those smaller personal watercraft vehicles, then a V-8 would provide way too much power. You would need to be belted in just to keep your seat. Something smaller like the K22 out of a Honda would be better. It is already set to hit the 10k RPM mark.
marine engines are designed to run all day at 4200 rpm .car engines are not ,cars have gears to allow a variation of revolutions per minute,they cannot take the pounding .of constant pressure. marine engines have metal timing gears and chains ,heavy duty bearings through out ,and brass freeze out plugs , with a heavy duty cam .. a marine 350 c.i. is usually 260 h .p. a car or truck is usually at best180 h.p. Major difference in performance ...you can run a boat engine in a vehicle ,but do not put a vehicle engine in a boat .unless you like to hear it go BANG!!!!!!Pratical use of automobile engines in boats ? what are the differences for rust, corrosion protection?
Go for it...
Consider a heat exchanger for closed loop cooling...antifreeze in a water bath. You need zincs on the block and drive shaft to control Galvanic corrosion. Swap the car manifold for a Marine manifold(ebay) which pumps water into the exhaust leaving the boat. Do the flame/spark arrestor thing and convert to sparkless starter/alternator/ignition. Make sure there is a good air path to the air intake. It's also a good idea to vent the engine compartment before attempting a startup. Make sure you don't have so much HP that it will flip on its side as the prop bites. OUCH!!!
Consider an old Berkley or Jacuzzi jet drive designed to bolt right to GM blocks.
I had a Berkley on an old Olds 455 in a Cigarette LaBaron(21ft) and it just rocked! Good luck.
you also have to have a spark proof starter and alternator and a flame arrestor for the air intake
Where to look for used boats? Any website?
Check out this link to yachtworld. They list all sizes and types of boats new and used. Just set some parameters and search away.
http://www.yachtworld.com/Where to look for used boats? Any website?
You didn't provided any detail what kind and power you need. By the way internet is now one of the best way to search anything easily. There are some websites that are selling used boats at cheaper price.You can try them to find out your desired one.
Have you never heard of BOAT TRADER ONLINE? but you can't buy one from that web site because they don't have an outlet in INDIAWhere to look for used boats? Any website?
try a reputable broker that deals in overseas transactions. Try poweryachtsinternational.com
craigslist.com or ebayclassifieds.comWhere to look for used boats? Any website?
Near a river
my house
http://www.yachtworld.com/Where to look for used boats? Any website?
You didn't provided any detail what kind and power you need. By the way internet is now one of the best way to search anything easily. There are some websites that are selling used boats at cheaper price.You can try them to find out your desired one.
Have you never heard of BOAT TRADER ONLINE? but you can't buy one from that web site because they don't have an outlet in INDIAWhere to look for used boats? Any website?
try a reputable broker that deals in overseas transactions. Try poweryachtsinternational.com
craigslist.com or ebayclassifieds.comWhere to look for used boats? Any website?
Near a river
my house
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